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Er zijn mensen die menen dat Rudolf Steiner niet op 27, maar op 25 februari geboren zou zijn, met name de aanhangers van Judith von Halle geloven dat. En ook de lezers van Helmut Zander die hem geloof schenken.
In mijn blog over Judith von Halle heb ik er een stukje over geschreven met links naar andere artikelen die het datum probleem bespreken.
http://antropocalypse.blogspot.nl/2013/11/judith-von-halle-behrend-2013-2014.html scrollen naar update 25-02-2013
er zijn zelfs meerdere een horoscopen gemaakt gebaseerd op 25 februari
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Lars Thor Smith, Born 1962 , Education: music studies in Copenhagen (classical piano and music theory), 9 years German school, German language diploma II, studies in astrology on the Nordic Astrology School Oslo, 2005-2007. Several published articles in astrology , alternative and cultural magazines in Denmark and Norway.
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Er zijn mensen die menen dat Rudolf Steiner niet op 27, maar op 25 februari geboren zou zijn, met name de aanhangers van Judith von Halle geloven dat. En ook de lezers van Helmut Zander die hem geloof schenken.
In mijn blog over Judith von Halle heb ik er een stukje over geschreven met links naar andere artikelen die het datum probleem bespreken.
http://antropocalypse.blogspot.nl/2013/11/judith-von-halle-behrend-2013-2014.html scrollen naar update 25-02-2013
er zijn zelfs meerdere een horoscopen gemaakt gebaseerd op 25 februari
astrologen schijnen vrij unaniem van mening te zijn dat het 25 februari was:
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THE ASTROLOGICAL ARGUMENTS FOR STEINER´s BIRTHDAY BEING ON THE 27th RATHER THAN THE 25TH:
Was Steiner born on the 25th or the 27th ? The arguments for both dates are numerous. What will follow is NOT a list of these numerous arguments, which all may have a truth in their own right - but the question seen from the point of astrology. To me this is a matter of finding the proof within the work and being of Steiner himself-which is what astrology is about, revealing the inner being of the person behind the chart - or looking for formal proof, which has no connection whatsoever with the one he was. I am aware this may seem like a somewhat lofty claim, especially if you have no real knowledge about what astrology can reveal.
I have had this discussion several times and from his birth chart it is quite simply impossible that he could have been born on the 25th. His birth certificate may say the 25th - the inner proof of the birthcharts for the two dates shows otherwise. Please see my endnotes also, to confirm that I am not fanatic!!! Only maybe zealous.
Steiner has a waxing Moon aspect (the aspect is waxing),becoming a rightangled triangle on the 27th, where his Moon is in Libra, the sign of balance between outer and inner world, which is a recurring theme in Anthroposophy.On the 27th his waning Moon creates a right angled triangle to the opposition of Jupiter and Venus in his horoscope. These planets form the grail aspect in Steiner´s horoscope, Venus being the receiving energy, Jupiter the cup that is filled. Of course, this opposition is also present on the 25th, but it stands unredeemed, without fullfillment that date! Without the harmonizing influence of the LIbra Moon! Now the opposition of Jupiter and Venus is between Leo and Aquarius. This is the oppostion that , in asteroid astrology, is connected to the symbol of world wisdom, Pallas Athena. World wisdom - Weltendenken - the Holy Spirit - And Libra is the third, balancing element of this wisdom, as the opposition between Leo and Aquarius needs harmonizing.
On the 25th the Moon is still in Virgo. On the 25th he would have a "pointless", waning Moon in Virgo, coming out of a full Moon, e.g. opposition with the Sun, hardly strong enough to be a opposition. It is an entirely UNFULLFILLED horoscope on the 25th. If you consider Steiner a complete human being, equipped with the ability for a total world view, this birthdate is just IMPOSSIBLE! Furthermore on the 25th he would have NO planets whatsoever in Cardinal signs. Lacking a whole quality in one´s horoscope is a serious lack. It is just not possible, that Steiner had no planets whatsoever in cardinal signs, which would be the case, were he born on the 25th.
Steiner´s whole Life and work is filled with the LIbra Moon, uniting spirit in the world with spirit in man. Libra represents the balance between inner and outer world. That he, in his birthchart, should be without ANY planets in cardinal is , from an astrological point of view, not possible, for a man, who again and again shows this harmonizing LIbra-tendency in his work.Now the mentioned triangle in astrology is called a solutional triangle, because it harmonizes the tension of the opposition- through the LIbra-calmness. Given Steiner´s many verses made to create inner tranquility and calmness just makes it unlikely that he had no harmonizing forces in his horoscope. The whiole of his work is PERMEATED with the forces of Libra. Here an example, BORN out of the LIbra mood:
Ich trage Ruhe in mir.
Ich trage in mir selbst die Kräfte,
die mich stärken.
Ich trage in mir selbst die Kräfte,
die mich stärken.
Ich will mich erfüllen
mit dieser Kräfte Wärme.
mit dieser Kräfte Wärme.
Ich will mich durchdringen
mit meines Willens Macht.
mit meines Willens Macht.
Und fühlen will ich,
wie Ruhe sich ergießt
durch all mein Sein,
wenn ich mich stärke,
die Ruhe als Kraft in mir zu finden,
durch meines Strebens Macht.
wie Ruhe sich ergießt
durch all mein Sein,
wenn ich mich stärke,
die Ruhe als Kraft in mir zu finden,
durch meines Strebens Macht.
There is also another reason for him being born the 27th, which is found in the moods and energy configuration of the two succeeding weeks in end-February. . His whole mission was to transform thinking, to show that thinking could be filled with the warmth of love - to show that wisdom was the prerequisite for love. And in the course of the year the shift that happens between the few days between the 25th and the end of February is CRUCIAL. During this time the inner lifeforces, the redeemed thinking can concentrate and stream into the heart. You can find the proof in the Soul calendar.
Here is the verse for the week around the 25th:
Es will erstehen aus dem Weltenschoße,
Den Sinnenschein erquickend, Werdelust.
Sie finde meines Denkens Kraft
Gerüstet durch die Gotteskräfte,
Die kräftig mir im Innern leben.
Es will erstehen aus dem Weltenschoße,
Den Sinnenschein erquickend, Werdelust.
Sie finde meines Denkens Kraft
Gerüstet durch die Gotteskräfte,
Die kräftig mir im Innern leben.
No doubt, this is Steiner, isn´t it. Denkens Kraft. Steiner had the mission to redeem thinking.His Life forces were strong. Like all people born in Pisces. Here is the verse for the following week. IN this verse we see how thinking is concentrated, making Steiner´s "grail"-claim from Geheimwissenschaft real:
"Wisdom is the prerequisite of love; love is the result of wisdom reborn in the "ego"."
Here the verse (which shows that the world thinking CAN concentrate and stream into the heart, thus transforming wisdom into LOVE):which was what the whole mission of Steiner was about!
Im Lichte, das aus Weltenhöhen
Der Seele machtvoll fließen will,
Erscheine, lösend Seelenrätsel,
Des Weltendenkens Sicherheit,
Versammelnd seiner Strahlen Macht,
Im Menschenherzen Liebe weckend.
Der Seele machtvoll fließen will,
Erscheine, lösend Seelenrätsel,
Des Weltendenkens Sicherheit,
Versammelnd seiner Strahlen Macht,
Im Menschenherzen Liebe weckend.
World thinking - Weltendenken! This is the Grail Wisdom I spoke of as the Pallas Athena wisdom, which unifies the whole horoscope. This is the grail! Wisdom transformed into love, which is what the whole mission of Steiner is about!
So the point I am trying hard to make is that Steiner must have been born on the brink between these two weeks,on the brink between these two qualities where thinking is first strengthened, and finally redeemed to be able to flow to the heart, this heart thinking again and again being the core theme in his Anthroposophy.
Of course things can be said against my claim. It may sound like I am fanatical. I am not. What could be said against my claim is the following.
-Steiner may have exposed himself to the trial of a horoscope, which was not harmonious.
-I am using the socalled tropical signs - from a siderical view it may look different.
-The timing of the soul calendar shifts from year to year. You cannot therefore use them as proof in this matter.
The last argument is a highly complicated matter that I dont have time to go into here. I dont Think there is really a Deep knowledge of this in anthroposophical circles - are Steiner´s verses corresponding with the tropical signs - except to the fact that the time between Christmas and Easter has do be devided into equal lengths , because of the shifting time of Easter - wherefore, in this period, they cannot correspond completely ?
My conviction still is: These few days from the 25th to the 27th make all the difference!
Lars Thor Smith, Born 1962 , Education: music studies in Copenhagen (classical piano and music theory), 9 years German school, German language diploma II, studies in astrology on the Nordic Astrology School Oslo, 2005-2007. Several published articles in astrology , alternative and cultural magazines in Denmark and Norway.
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